2016-2017 Rule Discussions/Proposals

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1. I think YES. I don't think it should be worth much though. Maybe .1 or .2 points max.

2. I also think YES. I know that people don't like this stat, but I do think it's apart of the game. Unitl the NHL does away with it, I think we should use it. I think it should only be worth .1 or .2 points though.

3. I also think YES, but only if they lose in a Shootout. I'd want a shootout loss to be worth .5, 1, or 1.5 points.

4. Can't think of anything.

5. I agree with starting the playoffs one week earlier so the champsionship matchup isn't the last week of the season. Juuso and I had a great matchup, but we both had top tier players sitting on our final day. This would get rid of that problem. The con of this is, the regular season ends one week earlier. But I think it's still worth it.

1. I agree with Rob, definitely make it .1 though.

2. I am not too big on +/- because you have guys like OEL who is one of the best defensemen in the league but is not on a great team and ended this season -6.

3. Yes goalies should get the reward for overtime/shootout losses, if possible you could make OT loss .5 and shootout a little more since they had to play even more minutes to get to the shootout I feel there should be a point difference.

4. Not that I can think of.

5. I feel starting the playoffs a week earlier would be beneficial, but I also feel having the finals being 2 weeks instead of 1 week allows the finals matchup to potentially be more intense.

Giveaways and Takeaways are both categories we can implemeent. What do you see as the benefits for these? How do you see them valued?

I spoke with fantrax earlier in the year about penalties drawn. It is not a stat they can add at this time, but will be keeping an eye on adding it.

My first up overall opinion is changing rules in a dynasty is really tricky. The people who were able to draft their initial team did it with the scoring categories in mind and changing those categories can really change someones plans.

My opinions are without actually taking the value of my players in mind in order to try and be impartial, but I will likely follow this post up with research into the impacts on my own team. With that said...


#1. Should we add a shots of goal (SOG) category for next season? If so, how many points?

I like the idea of it, and I think a lot of the top players will still remain on the top as they tend to shoot a lot but if we do change it I agree that it should be very low - 0.1

#2. Should we add a plus/minus (+/-) category for next season? If so, how many points?

I have a personal hatred for this stat because it says more about the team than the player, so I'd prefer we didn't have it.

#3. Should we reward goalies for overtime and/or shootout losses? If so, how many points?

I like the idea of rewarding OT/shoot out time since it is extra time played for a goalie, and often really difficult extra time.

#4. Are there other stat categories that we want to add or subtract for next season?

Not really.

#5. Do we want to start the playoffs one week earlier so the championship matchup does not take place during the last week of the season?

My initial thought was, I don't really care but I think that removing the issue of players being rested in the last week of the playoffs has its benefit for those in the championship.

One thing we should also discuss is if we should tweak any scoring values currently in place

So the one overall goal I think we should accomplish it to try and better align forwards and defensemen. The top 100 forward scored 21,221.8 points and 2.707 fp/g this season whereas the top 100 defensemen scored 16,995.5 with 2.2591 fp/g. Regardless of which new categories we add or which scoring we adjust, I'd ideally like to see us close that gap a bit more.

Additional years

Why do you say that? If I know on average, forwards are worth more than defensemen, I may try and stack my team in all forwards, forgetting defence. This creates an unbalanced system. I don't know why we'd want to have this sort of gap.

Personally, I'm in favour of boosting defensemen to above the value of forwards given the gap in total points to help balance things. We're such a deep league, creating this balance I think is really key.

Well before I join in any of these further discussions I will talk about the first 5 points:

1) Yes. We should have a SOG scoring category. I agree that it shouldn't be more than .2, but that is a topic to have a vote on.

2) I am in favor of a +/-, if it is the lowest scoring category. .1 points maybe. At that point I am not even sure if it's worth using. Not to passionate or caring here.

3) I think it is a good idea to reward Goalies for extra time. .5 points maybe. NHL teams are rewarded for OTL, so why not our goalies? We are also adding a few points for skaters with SOG, +/-, and potentially others, so this will help keep goalies in line.

4) Takeaways/Giveaways are something we should discuss. Still not sure how I feel about it. I believe it would be a good idea to look into the points awarded for blocked shots, hits, and maybe even PIM. I think blocked shots should be discussed especially.

5) I like the idea of the final game having all of the teams best players but I don't think we should be cutting the season too short. I would leave it as is, or find another solution.

I gotcha. SOG will defintiely help forwards more and maybe expand that gap. I don't think SOG should be more than .1 points though.

Could potentially increase BLKS by .1 points to help balance that out.

Before changing values of anything, or we vote on anything, I'd like Juuso to create that doc like he did pre draft. That was very helpful when thinking about what stats should be worht what. Especially since our balance is pretty solid to start with

1. Yes, I think this is important. But I think around .2 - .3
2. Hell no.
3. Yes. a loss in OT or shootout should give you .5 - 1 point.
4. Giveaway and takeaways would be very nice. Around .2 +/-
5. I say yes. If you are running to the finals your team usually has a few stars and if you do have a few there is a chance that they will be rested. I think winning this league is a cool accomplishment and takes a lot of work, I want my full team to be available, and have no chance of one of my stars being rested.

1. Yes, .1
2. No
3. This I don't understand, is this in addition to the initial win/loss?  Also, don't see the point in this really, so no (on first glance)
4. None come to mind
5. Yes, and each round only last for 1 wk.
6.  I would think it would be fun to have a basement trophy, for the worst team in the league (record-wise).  My fantasy football league we do a golden toilet paper roll, with your logo on it.  It could be something that the prior last place team could pick or it could be an official trophy.