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Bos (Pat)
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Playoff Structure/Airing of Grievances Apr 8, 2019 21:02:07 GMT -8 via mobile NYR (Rob) likes this

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Post by Bos (Pat) on Apr 8, 2019 21:02:07 GMT -8

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I can't help but feel hard done by with the championship week falling on the last week of the NHL season when everyone was either mailing it in or out to lunch. I purposefully didn't move a lot of players whom I'll lose in the waiver draft to make a push this year and I really felt it was and will be my best chance to win a title. I know there is a lot of luck involved in fantasy hockey, but I think playing on the last week of the season cost me dearly. I am not trying to take anything away from NYI as he had a fantastic run, but I think you can understand where I am coming from. It is very rare for fantasy hockey to be played during this week. No one is going to feel good about going into that last week hoping that their players play hard or even worse, they get rested. Sorry, I just felt like I had to say something because it was eating away at me and no one else brought it up that I saw.

Grievances over.

With that being said, what is the solution for next year? Have we talked about a playoff structure and I missed it? I'd hate for someone to feel like they got robbed because of this again.

NYR (Rob)
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Playoff Structure/Airing of Grievances Apr 8, 2019 23:13:44 GMT -8 NYI (Nick) and OTT (Sam) like this

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Post by NYR (Rob) on Apr 8, 2019 23:13:44 GMT -8

Hey Pat,

I had mentioned previously, but at the beginning of the season I screwed up the playoff format. The last two years, the championship was two weeks long and ended the week before the end of the regular season. I thought I set it up that way, but I realized I didn't once the playoffs began and there was nothing we could do about it at that point.

Next year, it will be back to a two week championship that ends on the second to last week of the season.

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MIN (Juuso)
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Playoff Structure/Airing of Grievances Apr 9, 2019 5:29:12 GMT -8 NYR (Rob) likes this

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Post by MIN (Juuso) on Apr 9, 2019 5:29:12 GMT -8

I can empathize. The fantasy hockey gods in this league can be a cruel bunch.

In 2015/16, I finished the regular season in 2nd place with 3755.3 FPTs. That season we also had a 1-week playoff match-up during the final round of the playoffs, and I lost to Rob in the finals by 0.7 FPts (200.4 to 201.1). Rob had finished that season with 3389.2 FPts, so the odds on favourite in that match-up lost. That year the gods didn't particularly like James' (CGY) team either, who had topped the league during the regular season with 3940.8 FPts. They lost 183.3 to 149.3 in the first round of the playoffs to Chris's Flyers team (who had accumulated 3325.3 FPTs during the regular season).

After that season we voted to go to a 2-week playoff format (final two weeks of the season). In the 2016-17 season I finished with a 22-0 record, scoring 3909.353 FPts -- 288.391 more than the 2nd place Sharks (James had relocated from Calgary) -- and 585.016 more than the 5th place Rangers. Despite my regular season performance, I still couldn't overcome the formidable Rangers, and I lost 170.217 to 172.481 in the 2nd round.

In 2017-2018 James' Flames had another dominant season, finishing the regular season with 3931.614 FPts -- 542.52 more than his 1st round opponent, the original Tampa Bay Lightning. Much to his chagrin, CGY were humiliated 225.524 to 170.727 in the first round of the playoffs (CGY actually scored the 2nd fewest points of the 8 teams in that round, despite being dominant all season long). Tampa rode a string of strong performances all the way to the championship that season, prevailing over the once again doomed North Stars 377.363 to 369.741.

Yeah - we messed up this season by making the finals 1-week long rather than 2-weeks long. After battling all the way to the finals, it does sting losing based on decisions that are not reflective of fantasy hockey in general (e.g. teams sitting players). I've had it happen to me a fair share. But, at the end of the day, fantasy hockey is fun because it is unpredictable.

I lost valuable players in the waiver draft after each of my failed championship runs. I'll be losing two valuable players this year too. The good news is that you can only lose 2. You'll be able to replenish the assets that you lose, and while it may come at a price (I haven't drafted in the 1st round of the playoffs since the 2016-17 season, nor will I be drafting there this year), you have all the makings of a team that will compete for the cup for years to come!

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NJD (Chloe)
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Playoff Structure/Airing of Grievances Apr 9, 2019 7:27:22 GMT -8

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Post by NJD (Chloe) on Apr 9, 2019 7:27:22 GMT -8

On the topic of waiver draft, that was kind of the point too was to create more parity in the league, you can build for the win, and if you win it great you did it, but it comes with the price of knowing you might lose 1-2 guys you want. Look at the kind of players who went last waiver draft.
Cam Fowler
Pavel Buchenvich
Andreas Athanasiou
Mike Green
Blake Coleman
just to name a few. It hurts to lose them, but if you want to contend its sometimes worth the risk.

NYI (Nick)
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Playoff Structure/Airing of Grievances Apr 10, 2019 10:42:44 GMT -8

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Post by NYI (Nick) on Apr 10, 2019 10:42:44 GMT -8

I agree with Boston and I understand that it was a mistake. We didn't mean to have a 1 week final and to play on the last week. At the end of the day I do think that it was okay, because we had 20+ weeks to notice it and prepare for it (Not that anybody actually did notice it) so it was still a fair playing field, since we all had to play the same weeks and both Boston and I had players sitting. It did effect Boston more than me though, I will admit that. But it would be much better to go back to what it was last year. I am very happy that I won, but looking at the Stanley Cup Award page and seeing that Boston and I both scored sub-200 while the other games are all around 350, makes this title feel like it has an asterisk next to it. It shouldn't feel that way, because all 20 teams had the same schedule to work with and it shouldn't be any different no matter who won, but it does feel that way.